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RKC vs USMC PRT my personal experience

Lately there has been an ongoing debate about the effectiveness of RKC both towards combat fitness and fitness in general. I'll give an example of what happened to me. I downloaded the USMC PRT PDF, posted below by GARM, over a year ago, I worked hard at it for a three months with poor results. After 3 months I was barely able to squeak out 3 and 1/2 pullups. I could barely run 2 miles. Go ahead and laugh. Enter PTP, then RKC, within 5 weeks I could do 13 pullups via GTG.

I will take RKC any day over this type of PT, however, I will do whatever it takes to obtain my objective. IMO RKC is the best way. I recently passed a full USMC PFT without even training for it. I can do more pushups now than ever, without even training them. The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle. But there is no reason why the Marines or any other branch of Armed Forces should not substitute their current PT program with RKC.

Flame away.

From: Christian Rubio. Date/Time: 2002-04-07 09:49:39.

Results @ Maxercise

I began RKBC at Maxercise. In three weeks I have lost a considerable amount of body fat. My strength endurance levels have never been higher and my lower back pain is diminishing. In three weeks, I am going to substitute a PTP routine. I will keep you posted on my future progress and thank you for the great info you put out there.

p.s. Steve is the man!

From: Robert Monti. Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2002 10:38:02 AM

Pavel, Jump experience!

Hey, Pavel did you ever get to jump Hollywood via a Casa out of the Tailgate in the Russian Airborne? We.re a little spoiled here at the 112th Signal. I just got done jumping one into 9 Megan here at Bragg.

Actually, what I wanted to tell you is that I can tell a noticeable difference from my last jump from doing your training with Kettlebells, and GTG with Pistols and Chin-ups. While everyone else was struggling with the simple task of sitting down and getting back up after they rigged up in their parachute, I had no problem thanks to all those Pistols. Also my chute was lighter feeling and didn.t bother my lower back one bit.

Here.s a funny story too... when it was time to get rigged up I went over to one of our team Sgt..s who has been giving me a bad time about my KB training and asked him if he would like me to rig him up. This guy is at least 230 pounds and I made sure to get his harness extra snug, since I know male soldiers appreciate that by the expressions on their faces. I.ll just leave it at that. Although, it was pretty funny when I was tightening his back straps and the jumpmaster starting laughing and said something to the effect of how he didn.t think it was possible for a big guy like that Sgt. to comprise so well. Needless to say, my team.s going to the field next week and you better believe I.m throwing at least one of my KB.s in my Hum-V and that team Sgt. whom I rigged up today said he was going to give them a try. They.re slowly breaking down... kind of scary.

Airborne and loving it,

Tonya

From: tonya1980. Date/Time: 2002-03-06 21:40:23.

Another "What the heck" effect

Ok, been hitting the K-bells with a vengeance as hard as I safely can. I'll admit, I get snickered at for using them, but I didn't care because I just knew they would help me out in my athletic endeavors. Well, today I got some proof. My wife and I ordered a king sized bed and it finally came in today. No problem, except that we live four flights up! To guys show up to deliver the bed. Me being me, I jump in and take on my fair share. The stairwell is really tight so we had to slide it up the banister at times. We were just about to make the final turn when something went wrong and the whole thing started going over the banister. Now for as long as my loving wife has been waiting for this bed I was fully prepared to sail right over the banister with it in the hopes that the body cast I would probably be in next time I saw her would get me a few sympathy points. Otherwise she would just say, "why didn't you try to catch it" and I would be in the doghouse. I grabbed to the box it was in and latched down for all I was worth (K-bell forearms!!) By reflex I locked down my abs and tightened every muscle in my body. This move alone is probably the ONLY reason I didn't throw out my back. After a few seconds of "Oh my God I can't believe I caught it!" I wrestled it back onto the banister and up the stairs.

THANK YOU PAVEL!!!!!!! Not only am I stronger, but lifting (and not just weights) SMARTER!!!-Medic1

From: Medic1. Date/Time: 2002-02-06 15:17:20.

Worth Every Penny!

First workout today with the 53 Lbs. KB. Loved every minute of it. That and the 36 Lbs. were the best investments I've ever made! Love sweating on a cold, winter morning!

From: RickyB. Date/Time: 2002-03-17 12:52:46

I have already enjoyed the "what the hell" carryover from KB swings & snatches. I went from a difficult PR of 300 to a comfortable PR of 325, without any deadlifting for approximately six weeks prior to the PR.

Now Pavel has given me a systematic way to work into my deads.

From: Johno Date/Time: 2002-04-09 20:56:06

Kettlebells and One Arm Pushups...Results

I have the 1 pood and 1.5 pood bells. In my youth I could do about 15 one arm pushups on my right arm and 10 on my left. I had not tried to do them for about a year. A year ago I could do 3 or 4 on my right and struggled to do 1 one on my left. I work with teenagers and one of them was attempting to do handstand pushup. I asked if he ever did one arm pushups and proceeded to demonstrate. I did 10 on my right and was able to bring my hand completely off the floor about 1.5 inches on each rep! I am 44 years old and I could not do that in my twenty's. The kid I was demonstrating for was as shocked as I was. I then did 10 on my left. ( no bounce).

I started doing my KB workouts in late October and my workouts have been haphazard. I usually manage 2 to 5 workouts weekly. And I probably took at least 5 weeks off during this time due to hand and finger problems because of poor technique.

I am completely sold on KB workouts. I have lost about 2 inches on my waist and I feel great. My Aikido practice has improved greatly since I started. Power, speed and balance, endurance and wind, have all improved. I am getting the 2 pood KB for Valentines Day. This KB workout is got to be the best thing that I have every done.

From: Aiki4me. Date/Time: 2002-02-10 01:06:06

Re: Kettlebells meet aikido

As you can tell by my nick, Aikido is my chosen martial art. I have had the same observations. I have been training RKC since October. First with the 1 pood and added the 1.5 about 2 months ago. I often get to be the crash test dummy (uke) for tests. During and after Randori, I would be sweating buckets and sucking wind. Now I barely break a sweat and don.t get winded hardly at all. Not bad for a 45 year old smoker. Soon to be ex-smoker. A few more things I noticed.

1. Better connection with Nage's center.

2. Shock resistance improved.

3. Wrist strength improved greatly. (Handy when working with newbies on Nikyo and Kotegashi.)

4.Improvement in Ki extension.

5.Hand and foot speed is faster.

6. Two year old shoulder injury is much better than before. (Injured when arm collapsed during standing forward roll)

From: Aiki4me. Date/Time: 2002-03-24 07:14:06

Re: Hey Brett, What are your secrets for increasing verticals?

Andy68,

There really isn't any secret. I feel the increase was due to the KB.

In grooving the hip thrust and the coordinated triple extension of the hip, knee, and ankle, I was finally able to use the power available to me in my jumping.

Of course the dynamic tension and power breathing are an integral part of the program.

Hope this helps...

PTP

Brett

From: BJones RKC. Date/Time: 2002-02-19 16:37:05

Kettlebell WOW

I have my kettlebell three weeks now and WOW! So far my back and shoulders are growing and getting cut up all at once and my forearms look like Popeye's.

I can't stop eating but I haven't gained an ounce but have lost an inch in my waist.

Thanks to Comrade Pavel

From: Robert Arciola. Date/Time: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:52:08 PM.

KB magic

I went to Duluth this weekend to do some skiing. I nailed a jump going way too fast and started to do a back flip (on accident), and don't know what happened after that. The ski patrol brought me to an ambulance by snowmobile which was pretty cool. I injured my back but I didn't think it was going to be that serious and didn't worry about it. Everyone who watched me wipe out thought I would be totally messed up but all I ended up with were some strained muscles in my lower back and a real bad headache. I believe the KB's have turned me into a man of steel. I don't even think I'll be afraid to hit the same jump next time I go.

Arthur

From: aet51. Date/Time: 2002-02-18 19:40:23

Re: People of Dragon Door!

Steve,

I think responses you've gotten outline most of the Party info on why KB are better than DB. As a relatively new addition to the forum, about six months, just let me comment on my experience.

1) I did snatches with DB for a few months awaiting purchase of KB and using lighter weights. The KB is another animal, for all the reasons you've heard. The exercises that can be done with the DB are about 75% "complete" in my opinion, compared to the KB versions. Just as one example, with the Snatches, there is a whole different pattern of grip work required as you tense-relax-tense your grip.

2) The KB marries strength, agility, balance and technique. Primitive yet sophisticated. A minute to learn, a lifetime to master, etc.

3) I started with a one pood and 1.5 pood; I have added a second 1 pood. In the course of time I will have two sets of all three, but no rush, the little ones can be plenty punishing.

4) There is also a primitive psychological allure, similar to that felt by anyone who loves "iron." There is also an element of doing something that is edgy, and that has a component of danger. There are four or five guys on any given day in my gym doing DB snatches, etc. There is one guy, me, doing KB work. Most of those four or five DB guys clearly want to try the KB, those that have given them a shot are amazed at the difference.

I don't know how much you hang around this forum, but you have gotten feedback from some top people that I've learned a lot from. You won't be disappointed if you give the KB a try. Plus, you've got Andy's money back guarantee; it doesn't get any better than that.

Good training.

Barry

From: Barry1001. Date/Time: 2002-02-25 22:16:44.

Progress after RKC class

Greeting to all of St. Paul RKC folks! I only started PTP back in Nov. and I had never done a DL before. I started with 45lbs (I am female, 5'2", 110lbs soaking wet, age 42). Just before the RKC class, I had made it to 105lbs for 5 reps and it was time to cycle. I got back from the class and I made it to 130lbs for 5 reps! Thanks Pavel and everyone else in the class.

From: Beth_RKC. Date/Time: 2002-03-05 22:56:48

PTP & RKC very functional for me

Comrade I can only speak for myself but I have found PTP and RKC lifting programs to be extremely applicable to martial arts, and working construction. I have tried other methods of lifting and found them detrimental to anything outside of a weight room. Even without kettlebells high rep DB snatches have had a "what the hell" effect of improving my ability to balance heavy objects over my head and explosively lifting irregularly shaped objects, grappling and striking. I apply the full tension methods Pavel teaches whenever I have to lift or hold anything particularly heavy. It helps me at work even though that is not the specific goal of my training.

That having been said, I think you would have a hard time finding any exercise that wasn't functional on some level. I prefer the basic lifts (squats, DL, side press, standing press, cleans, snatches) because I find they give me the most return for the time invested. Serious athletes usually have a carefully planed year long periodized program of general physical preparation and sport specific exercises. Even then I think that PTP and RKC will have a great deal to offer during certain phases of any athlete's training cycle. For me, "Functional" is a shorter way of saying "practical, efficient training that provides strength and endurance for situations found outside of weight training gyms". This of course is just my opinion. Perhaps the more knowledgeable Comrades on this board will give their interpretations of "functional".

From: Black Coffee. Date/Time: 2002-02-14 20:24:31

Hi!

My name is Brenda Delos Santos and own South Bay Jeet Kune Do with my husband Bobby Delos Santos.

We both use KettleBell as a cornerstone of our training and has made a tremendous difference in our over all performance and appearance!

Thanks,

Brenda Delos Santos

From: South Bay Jeet Kune Do. Date/Time: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:00 PM

fat loss redux - most mileage from a 1 pood KB?

6 weeks of mostly KB workouts have dropped an inch off my waist and burned off a lot of fat. My overall weight has not changed a bit, and I seem stuck at 212 lbs. My body seems to adopt to new exercise very quickly and doesn't like to use up much of its fat reserves... I take in about 2600 cal/day, following a Clarence Bass type diet: plenty of veggies, fruit, nuts, nearly zero processed foods, and about 180g protein.

What's the best way to increase the intensity of the KB workouts to try to kick some more fat away? I've started adding the breathing snatch ladders in Pavel's latest newsletter. Should I compress rest periods more? I already will jog or jump rope for 30 seconds or so then rest for 30 sec between

KB sets. All I've got is the 1 pood KB, it'll be May before I can afford the 1.5.

From: Brian G. Date/Time: 2002-03-06 07:23:23

Thanks for the info Com. Pavel!

I recently pulled 375 a PR single for me after about two and a half weeks of fairly heavy triples and then sets of 5 thereafter for the Bear variation. I'm doing RKC training now, but I wonder if when I get back to PTP if I can pull 405. When I did the 375 pull, it was heavy, but came up smoothly! I've been doing RKC ballistics incorporated with PTP Bear Benches and Clean and presses. The PTP bench and the clean and presses are done three days per week, before any ballistics with a 55 lb dumbbell. I'll do circuits with the ballistics. For example, a set of 10 reps each arm of swings, rest the amount of time it took to

perform the set, then same with cleans, then same with snatches. At most,

I've done 6 sets of ten reps each arm, and I am dripping with sweat. Is this OK to increase my pull later on. Also, I've noticed that even though my calories are slightly down now, I've lost fat in the last week and a this, even though I was trying to gain weight on the PTP Bear Deads?

Thanks for your anticipated assistance and advice.

From: Nick Radonjic. Date/Time: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:00 PM

MWR wants Kettlebells, maybe...!! Pavelizer

I approached the office, which manages our Gym here at Eagle Base about securing my Kettlebell there for my use. I spoke with Ed Winters, a program director with Moral Welfare and Recreation. MWR runs the gyms in the Army and this is a civilian organization run with non-appropriated funds. He became interested and I shared your most recent article in MM about the Marines and my RKC book with him. He expressed interest in possibly buying some Kettlebells and logging use for a potential mass buy for the entire IFOR area!

Putting this in perspective, It is my belief now that Kettlebell training will result in better results in preparing soldiers for the new US Army PT Test. It consists of: one mile run, 100m sprint, standing long jump, some sort of bodyweight squat, pushups and the "Heel Hook", which is a hanging leg raise which ends with the legs wrapped around the overhead bar. There is quite a bit of nervousness with soldiers about this test. The test will probably be in this form when approved some time this year. My problem with the new PT program is the majority of exercises require partners to do effectively. Teamwork is awesome but for National Guard/Reserve soldiers, they are not usually around training partners the majority of the time to do these exercises effectively.

Female soldiers/civilians/everyone bitch about not wanting to gain muscle but just want to "tone up" and loose fat. Well RKC seems perfect for them! A strong selling point and one that I told him.

Your RKC training/BPA seems to be the most effective solo military oriented physical training I have ever encountered. One of the STRONG selling points for your program is it can be done solo effectively.

I believe it would be beneficial to put on a demonstration in the Gym of the Kettlebells. I am in the process of getting some bigger ones than my 1 pood. We have aerobics classes here, why not Kettlebell classes! When I get more confident in my Kbell abilities and some coaching from my Russian friend I might be able to do this. This could really help many people.

Take care,

Chuck

From: Charles Fair Date/Time: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:26:54 PM

Hacking fat off meat

In the last few months I've hacked off about twenty-five pounds of lard without even cutting out the goodies or doing any special eating plan, simply by doing three RKC workouts per week, each of which averages the equivalent of around 120 reps of two pood ballistics, floor to full overhead. I usually keep wheezing the whole workout, ie, I keep the rest breaks relatively short.

From: Craig N. Date/Time 2002-03-11 19:49:37

Results/Comments on week 3 of RKC

I've been on RKC for three weeks. My first week, I couldn't even do a straight set of 50 two arm swings without getting so sore that I had to take an extra day off between workouts. This week's results are in.

With a 25 lb. DB:

100x1 one arm swings (50 each arm)

100x1 two arm swings

100x1 cleans/snatch(?) (50 each arm)--make sure to snatch ABOVE shoulder level.

20x1 one arm snatch (semi C&J)

Rests around 60 seconds

It's almost time to start adding weight.

2nd workout: pullup/dip ladders to 5

When I can get all the reps, I'm going to start adding weight. Oh God, I'm going to need KBs before I can even afford them! Next week is going to feature some Hindu squats (playing by the same rules) and a couple of Martial Arts specific drills.

In other news, I'm notably "thicker" in the shoulders and traps. The inner "teardrop" of my quad is stronger, and I've got cuts in my delts for the first time since high school Lacrosse. Time to break out the tank tops, too, as it was 78 degrees in beautiful Boulder Colorado today. Damn I have spring fever.

From: dogchild. Date/Time: 2002-04-07 01:43:00

Help with kettlebells

Mike,

I have had our athletes use kettlebells since March of 2001 here at Wake Forest.

I have been putting it in with our Olympic lifting routine. The one arm Kettlebell Snatch is best. I like the one and two arm swings. I will never give up the Olympic style lifts with our athletes but kettlebells are a great addition. I strongly recommend Pavel's Kettlebell book and video. As for myself I have been using the kettlebells. I am 47 years old and have severe (grade 5) osteoarthritis in my right knee due to a wrestling injury that when the doctors took out all of my medial meniscus. I can even use the 72 lber., and it doesn't bother my knee as much as when getting up to 90 kgs. on power cleans. I basically have had to give up the Olympic lifts with bumpers for the kettlebells!

In Strength,

Ethan Reeve

From: Ethan Reeve. Date/Time: 2002-02-23 14:27:50.

Re: Q for Coach Reeve

vorpalblade,

We have 20 platforms with 20 squat stands, 20 power racks, 20 utility benches

(0-90), 20 Olympic bars, 20 power bars, 20 sets of 10-15-20-25 kgs. bumper plates, 20 chin bars, and a lot of metal plates. We do everything as a team.

We can get our 60 varsity travel team to workout at one time. We run our workouts like a sport coach would run a sport practice. So, it is very important that we have plenty of everything we use. We don't have a lot of frills in our weight room. We are looking to have a pair of 18-36-54-72 lbs. kettlebells at each one of our 20 platform stations. Does anyone else do this? I'm not sure! I believe we could be the first in this country. Can't speak for the rest of the world. I have always wanted to train as a wrestler with kettlebells. I didn't know anyone in this country that used them or made them. Too bad! I learned more about them like many of the other folks on this forum, through Pavel. I think kettlebells are more functional than dumbbells on the standup explosive lifts. So, I would prefer them rather buying dumbbells for each platform. Problem is where to store them at each platform. I'm going to have to design a rack unless someone on the forum has already done so.

In Strength,

Ethan reeve

From: Ethan Reeve. Date/Time: 2002-03-28 10:24:05

PROGRESS!!!

Comrades, it seems just like it almost happened overnight. As you all well know, around the holidays I was porked up to 242 and I regret not measuring bf then, but I'll estimate and say 19-22%. Anyway, after the holidays I started kicking ass and taking names with the kbells and dropped 20 pounds in a short amount of time, it was a little less than a month. Anyway, after that I hit a plateau, even though I was trying to eat healthy and work out hard. Then I did 2 things differently, 1) I started doing very intense kbell circuits instead of doing 10-20 reps of snatch for example, then resting for 30 seconds and doing more sets until I got a specified number of reps. And 2) I took the advice of all the Comrades and said to hell with fancy shmancy diets or nutrition programs, I went back to basics and burned up more than I took in. I eat 5 meals a day and stick to higher protein diet w/fresh fruits and veggies for my carbs. Anyway I said all that to say this: The last weigh in and bf measurement I had was on January 28, I was 221 and 17.5%, well since then when I made the 2 adjustments I knew my pants were starting to feel almost normal again, back when I was trying to be a bodybuilder in the summer and was in my best shape (ha ha, please no bb comments, I have seen the light), this morning I weighed in at 216 and 15.3%bf. It's insane, the kbells are just melting my fat away and I'm loving every minute of it. Look out single digit body fat and visible abs, here I come!!

From: Fish. Date/Time: 2002-02-08 10:18:15.

My Take on DBs vs. KBs...

I've followed the threads. Talk about digressions and tangents.

Hey! I'm a Scot. Frugality oozes from my very pores. Yeah, kettlebells are kind of expensive. They will last forever unless you manage to set off a half-pound of Plastique in your basement/garage/backyard. As for the cost, go find your nearest foundry and have them make you a kettlebell and then get back to us. If you can score a real kettlebell in Estonia or Latvia, go for it. Only 30 euros? Shit, you can probably buy a used car for that much too. You can't compare our economy with their lack of one. I've been to Tallin a few times (may be again in late May) and if I can snag a kettlebell there I will, if only for the novelty.

I'm sure you can plug dumbbells in for some kettlebell exercises. God knows I tried. Oh how I tried. You know what? Trying to use dumbbells instead of kettlebells is like watching a black and white filmstrip while your buddy's got the 47-inch digital plasma monitor with surround sound. It just ain't the same and you will not be able to reap the same kinds of benefits: motor and strength gains nor the same cardio effects given the awkwardness of high-rep dumbbell "swings."

To sum up (and notice I didn't mention Bruce Lee, Buddy Lee, Robert E. Lee, Lee Marvin, Lee Remick, Jerry Lee Lewis, Jimmy Lee Swaggart, or Sara Lee) If you have kettlebells, well done. If you don't, get em. If you can't afford em right now, don't worry the factory will make more. If you will never be able to afford them, God bless you. Maybe Travelocity or CheapAssTickets.com will offer a super special roundtrip to Eastern Europe and you can fly there AND buy a set of kettlebells and fly back all for less than $400. Just remember to buy the Party a case of Estonian Vodka. Or else.

Garrett

From: ScotPower. Date/Time: 2002-04-01 14:20:07

Kettle bells and State Wrestling Champion

Pavel, I just wanted to let you know how kettlebell training helped my 15-year old son win the 171 lb. 2A Colorado State wrestling championship last month as a freshman (season record was 49 wins, 2 losses, and 35 pins). He defeated a senior who was last years 171lb champion. He defeated seniors and juniors all season, in part, due to his increased strength and explosive power that was a direct result of our kettlebell training. We did KB presses every other day alternating with KB high rep workouts on alternate days. He dominated his weight class and his only losses were to the 3A 171lb champion and 3A 171lb runner-up, and that was early in the season before we really got going with the program. We started with the 1 pood bells and then later added the 1 1/2 pod. We just received our 2 pod bells and really enjoying them. No freshman in Colorado has ever won a championship at that heavy of a weight. Thanks again for helping make his success possible.

From: Kbrenegade. Date/Time: 2002-03-20 01:03:59

Review of RKC on Amazon.com

Pavel, I thought you might like to see a review of the Russian Kettlebell Challenge that I posted on the Amazon.com website:

(five stars) The Ultimate Workout, December 27, 2001

Reviewer: Rob Randhava (see more about me) from Washington, DC United States

I agree wholeheartedly with what David Cooke has to say about the Russian Kettlebell Challenge. Yes, it's expensive, not a lot of text, and he spends a good deal of time promoting his other products. Let me start with this: if the rest of his products are as good as this book, I'm looking forward to cheerfully giving Pavel a lot more of my hard-earned money.

I got hooked on the basic idea of high-rep, ballistic dumbbell exercises about a month before I actually shelled out the money for this book, when an issue of MuscleMedia magazine had an article highlighting Pavel's book and a few of the exercises he recommends. It was easy for me to jump right into it based simply on the magazine article because I had a lot of experience with "Olympic" lifts like the clean & jerk and the snatch. But I had never tried them with dumbbells before (I'll get actual kettlebells eventually), and in two decades of lifting weights I've never experienced anything like this before. It is incredibly grueling, but the workout really does do everything that Pavel says it does: build explosive strength, burn fat, tone up your muscles (actually more like it turns them to steel). As exhausting as the workouts are, though, and as much as I dread going into the gym most days to do it, it's also surprisingly easy on my back and all the joints that usually ache after a "conventional" lifting workout.

Bottom line is that at a few months shy of 30, after only a few months of the "Russian Kettlebell Challenge" (again, only using dumbbells for now), I'm heading towards being in far better shape than I ever was in my late teens or early 20s. I'll probably never go back to those outmoded, obsolete 21st century workouts again.

So why did I buy the book, if I was already getting great results from a magazine article that I had only read one time? For me it was because the book showed me more great "old school" exercises . . . For example, I had never tried a "bent press" or a "side press" before. Wow. Not too many barbell exercises or "Hammer Strength" machines will set your lats, shoulders, abs, obliques, triceps, and biceps on fire all at once, like a bent press will.

Why should most people get this book? I'd imagine that very few people know how to do lifts like the clean & jerk or snatch correctly, and most people probably don't even know what a bent press is! There is a lot of technique involved, and Pavel teaches you what you need to know; i.e. how to do these potentially dangerous lifts properly and - equally important - avoid dropping the weights on your head. He teaches them in a way that comes across as very simple, though, and easy to learn - and with a style that helps to get you motivated. Again, I'm totally with David Cooke on this one: I challenge anyone - who's actually put this book to use - to come forward and honestly say they didn't love the results!

From: Rob Randhava. Date/Time: 2002-01-03 13:10:47

Gains since becoming "Pavelized"

After adding PTTP and RKC techniques to my training ,my weighted dips have gone from 90 to 110 lbs for 5 reps(in 2 weeks!), weighted pull ups from 45 to

60 lbs. (neutral grip).

Using hi-rep snatches as the main cardio exercise over a 2 week period, I achieved a min./mile time in a 5k race that I normally would only achieve after a month of training using mostly running. I plan to experiment with this further this spring race season. Who knows, maybe I'll actually place in my age group! I move up to the next one (50-55 yrs.) this June, so it should be easier!

At the RKC certification I was unable to do deck squats, which I blamed on the lack of flexibility in my left knee (due to a broken distal femur in 1987). With a little practice this weekend, I can do them fairly easy. Maybe because I've doubled up on my Snatch workouts since that fateful previous weekend.

This stuff really works. Thanks to all those whose advice I've followed on this website, and especially to that fine Russian gentleman whose name you all know!

From: John Sansone. Date/Time: 2002-02-25 16:50:11

Kbs Definitely The Way To Go (long)

I just wanted to thank Pavel once again. A little while ago I discovered this website and became interested in functional strength and his training methods over the played out Joe Weider methods and those of the muscle mag set. I bought Power To The People and read it cover to cover! I trained using those methods for a month and the curiosity about Kbs overwhelmed me. Whoever wrote up the sales pitch for the Russian KB Challenge book and video is an expert salesman! I bought both the book and the video and two KBs the 1 pood and the 1.5 pood and right now Im contemplating two more matching KBs and maybe a lighter one for my wife! Well before I start rambling, I just wanted to say I.ve never gotten such results from any weight training of other type of exercise before!! I have been training 5 to 6 days per week. Each day concentrating of different types of movements, one day ballistics the next grind. Coupled with some bike riding and pullups I have indeed changed my physique for the better! My goal is to look like the Hercules rendition Pavel speaks of in the RKC book. And I have to say I.m getting there! Following the program maximum rules is key and I try to keep practice sessions to less than 45 minutes to 30 minutes. I.m starting to see the physique I had 10 years ago! I just wanted to say thank you all again, especially you Pavel!

Yours In Strength,

Comrade John

From: JohnnyK. Date/Time: 2002-04-12 17:43:54

An overnight example of the KB "What the Hell?" effect

At work I have an Ironmind Captains of Crush gripper, # 1. The most reps I could comfortably bang out was 7 or 8 with the right hand, and about 4 or 5 with the left.

Last week I got my 24 kg KB (have had the 16 kg for a while). I did some sets of military presses with it the first night (and tried and failed at doing the bottoms-up press), and it felt like I had to grip harder/tighter than for any other exercise I've done. I can side press at least 60 pounds, but the KB's thick handle made it much more challenging than that.

So about 16 hours later I tried the gripper, and I did 12 reps with the right hand and 10 with the left. Now I can do at least 13 with each hand.

Yes, I made sure I was using the #1 gripper and not the trainer. I did spray some WD-40 on the #1 several days before because it squeaked pretty loud, but I didn't notice any difference in the difficulty until after I played with the KB. My boss also uses the # 1 every now and then, and he said it seemed the same.

I take it from this that my nervous system started recruiting more fibers overnight. Would that be accurate? Has anyone else had such an immediate experience like this with weights or KBs? I'm still pretty surprised about it

Thanks for any comments!

From: Jsnow. Date/Time: 2002-02-18 18:28:54

Safety of the one arm snatch? (decision time!)

The one armed snatch is quite safe when performed according to the instructions. Take your time learning the lift. I had a hard time figuring out the flip at the top. With a little practice and some good tips from the members on this board I figured it out. There are plenty of good exercises in there to work with until you have perfected the snatch. You can get a good workout with high rep swings, cleans, and jerks. Of course there is also a whole battery of Grind exercises for you to do as well. Go get a KB and RKC I think you will be happier than with Combat conditioning. You can always include some Combat conditioning drills in your workouts but I don.t think you will find that necessary.

For inspiration, I dumped three pounds this week using KB's. I am an experienced trainer who usually finds it difficult to loose more than one pound a week most of the time. They really do work.

From: Mongo. Date/Time: 2002-03-03 21:33:18.

Went to the Gym for the first time in months today...

I have been working out with Kbells for over two months now, and haven't set foot in a gym during that time. I also haven't pulled a deadlift, any deadlift whatsoever, in over a year and a half. Did the following:

Military press- 150 for 6, 160 for 4, 150 for 4.

W.towel pullup- bw+85 for 5,5,4,4,3

One arm dumbbell clean and jerk- 80 for 5, 90 and 100 for 3, 105 and 115 and 120 for a single.

Deadlift- 135, 225, 275, 315, 365, 405, 435

At 168 pounds, I deadlifted 435 without deadlifting for a year and a half. Add to that the record 120 pound clean and jerk, and I am a happy camper. The main thing is that I now I'm getting everything I need from kettlebells. Strength, endurance, power, strength-endurance..... truly awesome. Thanks Pavel...

From: Johnypullups. Date/Time: 2002-03-24 20:23:08

Kettlebell carryover to volleyball=success

I haven't seen many posts regarding athletic performance gains with kettlebell training so I want to relate to the Party my success in the brief time I've been slinging around my puny 1 pood kettlebell, more specifically as it relates to recovery. For over a month my volleyball team hasn't played in a tournament due to scheduling conflicts, injuries, etc. and during that time I've been practicing mostly the ballistic drills, swings and one-armed snatches with some military presses thrown in. Well, after an all day tournament yesterday, with 6 matches that lasted up to an hour each, I finally got to see what everyone has been raving about for myself. Although I didn't notice an increase in my vertical leap I was able to jump just as high and come in for my approaches just as fast at the very end of the day as the beginning. I play one of the most physically demanding positions in volleyball, middle blocker, and normally the day after a tournament I can hardly walk and experience delayed onset muscle soreness in nearly every muscle in my body, especially my abs and legs but I woke up this morning with hardly any ill effect. It's unbelievable! I'm the grizzled veteran on my team at 34 but after long rallies when my much younger teammates were sucking wind I felt fine and after the last match when they were all hobbling around, moaning and groaning I felt fresh as a daisy. Who knew kettlebells could have such a profound effect?

From: majorwoody. Date/Time: 2002-02-11 15:04:22

Kettlebells RULE!!! (longish PR ramblings)